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    <title>The Opinion Dominion - Episodes Tagged with “Lawyer”</title>
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  <title>Episode 29: ToS: Terms of Servitude</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Jeff and JT discuss Terms of Service. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Links&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;INSTAGRAM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://hacked.com/instagrams-terms-of-use-update/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://hacked.com/instagrams-terms-of-use-update/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://archive.is/35dRD" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://archive.is/35dRD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
On the 17th: &lt;a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201219103609if_/https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20201219103609if_/https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Other links:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/help/instagram/termsofuse" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.facebook.com/help/instagram/termsofuse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://archive.is/mFP9P" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://archive.is/mFP9P&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://help.instagram.com/252214974954612/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://help.instagram.com/252214974954612/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://archive.is/2ZKKh" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://archive.is/2ZKKh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
So here's the update in the TOS:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://help.instagram.com/581066165581870/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://help.instagram.com/581066165581870/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
 "You can't use a domain name or URL in your username without our prior written consent."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BargainBeautyHub&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Original tweet: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Her Question: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Facebooks reply: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Herod Clause:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/15/i-read-all-the-small-print-on-the-internet" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/15/i-read-all-the-small-print-on-the-internet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
“The biggest lie on the internet is ‘I have read and agree to the terms and conditions’,” says security expert Mikko Hyppönen. Setting out to prove his point, Hyppönen’s company F-Secure set up a free WiFi hotspot in the heart of London’s financial district in June 2014.&lt;br&gt;
Buried in the terms and conditions of the free network was a “Herod clause”: in exchange for the WiFi, “the recipient agreed to assign their first born child to us for the duration of eternity”.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Patreon broke the law with updating TOS&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-lawsuit-owen-benjamin/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-lawsuit-owen-benjamin/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24001118" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24001118&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LinkedIn has the right to change your content.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/index.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2012 - Instagram could sell your photos -- they quickly reverted it.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/3.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/3.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sears - spying&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/4.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
FTC stepped in: &lt;a href="https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2009/06/sears-settles-ftc-charges-regarding-tracking-software" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2009/06/sears-settles-ftc-charges-regarding-tracking-software&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Twitpic&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/6.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/6.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple itunes&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
You also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture, or production of nuclear, missile, or chemical or biological weapons. &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Jeff and JT discuss Terms of Service. </p>

<h3>Links</h3>

<p>INSTAGRAM<br>
<a href="https://hacked.com/instagrams-terms-of-use-update/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://hacked.com/instagrams-terms-of-use-update/</a></p>

<p><a href="https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875" rel="nofollow noopener">https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875</a><br>
<a href="https://archive.is/35dRD" rel="nofollow noopener">https://archive.is/35dRD</a><br>
On the 17th: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201219103609if_/https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20201219103609if_/https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875</a></p>

<p>Other links:<br>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/help/instagram/termsofuse" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.facebook.com/help/instagram/termsofuse</a><br>
<a href="https://archive.is/mFP9P" rel="nofollow noopener">https://archive.is/mFP9P</a><br>
<a href="https://help.instagram.com/252214974954612/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://help.instagram.com/252214974954612/</a><br>
<a href="https://archive.is/2ZKKh" rel="nofollow noopener">https://archive.is/2ZKKh</a></p>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290" rel="nofollow noopener">https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290</a><br>
So here's the update in the TOS:<br>
<a href="https://help.instagram.com/581066165581870/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://help.instagram.com/581066165581870/</a><br>
 "You can't use a domain name or URL in your username without our prior written consent."</p>

<p>BargainBeautyHub</p>

<p>Original tweet: <a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290" rel="nofollow noopener">https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290</a><br>
Her Question: <a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030" rel="nofollow noopener">https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030</a><br>
Facebooks reply: <a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030" rel="nofollow noopener">https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030</a></p>

<p>Herod Clause:<br>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/15/i-read-all-the-small-print-on-the-internet" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/15/i-read-all-the-small-print-on-the-internet</a><br>
“The biggest lie on the internet is ‘I have read and agree to the terms and conditions’,” says security expert Mikko Hyppönen. Setting out to prove his point, Hyppönen’s company F-Secure set up a free WiFi hotspot in the heart of London’s financial district in June 2014.<br>
Buried in the terms and conditions of the free network was a “Herod clause”: in exchange for the WiFi, “the recipient agreed to assign their first born child to us for the duration of eternity”.</p>

<p>Patreon broke the law with updating TOS<br>
<a href="https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-lawsuit-owen-benjamin/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-lawsuit-owen-benjamin/</a><br>
<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24001118" rel="nofollow noopener">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24001118</a></p>

<p>LinkedIn has the right to change your content.<br>
<a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/index.html" rel="nofollow noopener">https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/index.html</a></p>

<p>2012 - Instagram could sell your photos -- they quickly reverted it.<br>
<a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/3.html" rel="nofollow noopener">https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/3.html</a></p>

<p>Sears - spying<br>
<a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/4.html" rel="nofollow noopener">https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/4.html</a><br>
FTC stepped in: <a href="https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2009/06/sears-settles-ftc-charges-regarding-tracking-software" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2009/06/sears-settles-ftc-charges-regarding-tracking-software</a></p>

<p>Twitpic<br>
<a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/6.html" rel="nofollow noopener">https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/6.html</a></p>

<p>Apple itunes<br>
<a href="https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html</a><br>
You also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture, or production of nuclear, missile, or chemical or biological weapons.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Jeff and JT discuss Terms of Service. </p>

<h3>Links</h3>

<p>INSTAGRAM<br>
<a href="https://hacked.com/instagrams-terms-of-use-update/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://hacked.com/instagrams-terms-of-use-update/</a></p>

<p><a href="https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875" rel="nofollow noopener">https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875</a><br>
<a href="https://archive.is/35dRD" rel="nofollow noopener">https://archive.is/35dRD</a><br>
On the 17th: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201219103609if_/https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875" rel="nofollow noopener">https://web.archive.org/web/20201219103609if_/https://help.instagram.com/519522125107875</a></p>

<p>Other links:<br>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/help/instagram/termsofuse" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.facebook.com/help/instagram/termsofuse</a><br>
<a href="https://archive.is/mFP9P" rel="nofollow noopener">https://archive.is/mFP9P</a><br>
<a href="https://help.instagram.com/252214974954612/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://help.instagram.com/252214974954612/</a><br>
<a href="https://archive.is/2ZKKh" rel="nofollow noopener">https://archive.is/2ZKKh</a></p>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290" rel="nofollow noopener">https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290</a><br>
So here's the update in the TOS:<br>
<a href="https://help.instagram.com/581066165581870/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://help.instagram.com/581066165581870/</a><br>
 "You can't use a domain name or URL in your username without our prior written consent."</p>

<p>BargainBeautyHub</p>

<p>Original tweet: <a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290" rel="nofollow noopener">https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1339679351881740290</a><br>
Her Question: <a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030" rel="nofollow noopener">https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030</a><br>
Facebooks reply: <a href="https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030" rel="nofollow noopener">https://twitter.com/bargainbeautyhb/status/1340207534939009030</a></p>

<p>Herod Clause:<br>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/15/i-read-all-the-small-print-on-the-internet" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/15/i-read-all-the-small-print-on-the-internet</a><br>
“The biggest lie on the internet is ‘I have read and agree to the terms and conditions’,” says security expert Mikko Hyppönen. Setting out to prove his point, Hyppönen’s company F-Secure set up a free WiFi hotspot in the heart of London’s financial district in June 2014.<br>
Buried in the terms and conditions of the free network was a “Herod clause”: in exchange for the WiFi, “the recipient agreed to assign their first born child to us for the duration of eternity”.</p>

<p>Patreon broke the law with updating TOS<br>
<a href="https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-lawsuit-owen-benjamin/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-lawsuit-owen-benjamin/</a><br>
<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24001118" rel="nofollow noopener">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24001118</a></p>

<p>LinkedIn has the right to change your content.<br>
<a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/index.html" rel="nofollow noopener">https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/index.html</a></p>

<p>2012 - Instagram could sell your photos -- they quickly reverted it.<br>
<a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/3.html" rel="nofollow noopener">https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/3.html</a></p>

<p>Sears - spying<br>
<a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/4.html" rel="nofollow noopener">https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/4.html</a><br>
FTC stepped in: <a href="https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2009/06/sears-settles-ftc-charges-regarding-tracking-software" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2009/06/sears-settles-ftc-charges-regarding-tracking-software</a></p>

<p>Twitpic<br>
<a href="https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/6.html" rel="nofollow noopener">https://money.cnn.com/gallery/technology/2014/05/13/worst-terms-of-service/6.html</a></p>

<p>Apple itunes<br>
<a href="https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html</a><br>
You also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture, or production of nuclear, missile, or chemical or biological weapons.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 8: Begun... the License Wars have</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 04:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>JT Pennington</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Jeff and JT talk about everyone's favorite issue... FOSS Licensing.  JT goes into detail about one concern he has for the future of Software Licensing.  Surprisingly overall this was a polite and calm conversation... but we expect some spicy feedback from the community.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>31:28</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Jeff and JT talk about everyone's favorite issue... FOSS Licensing.  JT goes into detail about one concern he has for the future of Software Licensing.  Surprisingly overall this was a polite and calm conversation... but we expect some spicy feedback from the community.  Confucius say, 'Licensing is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.'&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whatever your stance, Licensing discussions are one of THE hot-button issues in the FOSS world. Only three things are certain in this world: death, taxes, and FOSS licensing arguments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Feedback can be sent using the fireside contact form at the bottom of the podcast page, or by emailing directly to jt [at] minddripmedia.com&lt;br&gt;
Our Telegram channel is here: &lt;a href="https://t.me/TheOpinionDominion" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://t.me/TheOpinionDominion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Our Matrix channel is here: TheOpinionDominion:matrix.org &lt;/p&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>licensing, lumina, mit, bsd, gpl, lgpl, isc, mozilla, wtfpl, nosa, Beerware, public domain, open source, linux, unix, sysadmin, os, operating system, development, software, FOSS, FLOSS, Patent, Copyright, Legal, Lawyer</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Jeff and JT talk about everyone's favorite issue... FOSS Licensing.  JT goes into detail about one concern he has for the future of Software Licensing.  Surprisingly overall this was a polite and calm conversation... but we expect some spicy feedback from the community.  Confucius say, 'Licensing is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.'</p>

<p>Whatever your stance, Licensing discussions are one of THE hot-button issues in the FOSS world. Only three things are certain in this world: death, taxes, and FOSS licensing arguments.</p>

<p>Feedback can be sent using the fireside contact form at the bottom of the podcast page, or by emailing directly to jt [at] minddripmedia.com<br>
Our Telegram channel is here: <a href="https://t.me/TheOpinionDominion" rel="nofollow noopener">https://t.me/TheOpinionDominion</a><br>
Our Matrix channel is here: TheOpinionDominion:matrix.org</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Jeff and JT talk about everyone's favorite issue... FOSS Licensing.  JT goes into detail about one concern he has for the future of Software Licensing.  Surprisingly overall this was a polite and calm conversation... but we expect some spicy feedback from the community.  Confucius say, 'Licensing is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.'</p>

<p>Whatever your stance, Licensing discussions are one of THE hot-button issues in the FOSS world. Only three things are certain in this world: death, taxes, and FOSS licensing arguments.</p>

<p>Feedback can be sent using the fireside contact form at the bottom of the podcast page, or by emailing directly to jt [at] minddripmedia.com<br>
Our Telegram channel is here: <a href="https://t.me/TheOpinionDominion" rel="nofollow noopener">https://t.me/TheOpinionDominion</a><br>
Our Matrix channel is here: TheOpinionDominion:matrix.org</p>]]>
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